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space before history is made big or

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nasa's johnson space center has served

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as the iconic setting to some of

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humankind's greatest achievements

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for 60 years our center has been the

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world leader in human space exploration

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on may 25th 1961 president john f

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kennedy committed the nation to achieve

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the goal of landing a man on the moon

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and returning him safely to earth before

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nasa's space task group in charge of

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america's human space flight program was

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already working on project mercury to

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put astronauts into earth's orbit

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but with the additional task of a human

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lunar landing it soon outgrew its

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facilities at nasa's langley research

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center in hampton virginia

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the agency decided it needed a dedicated

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field center for human space flight

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1961 after evaluating multiple sites

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around the country nasa announced that

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the new manned spacecraft center would

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you may have noticed we have already

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begun celebrating our 60th anniversary

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with a new logo and through a series of

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articles featuring aspects of the space

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center's history

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we have even more planned throughout

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activities will include panel

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merchandise emblazoned with the

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anniversary logo a slideshow of jsc

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through the decades a podcast reflecting

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on jsc's history

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bill denied catwalk tours and mission

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operations control room tours

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videos and more

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this will all be capped off by an

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jsc has made many giant leaps throughout

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we fulfilled president kennedy's goal of

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landing a man on the moon and today we

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reach further into the stars as we push

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forward to the moon once again and then

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on to mars

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for more than 20 years we have

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successfully continuously crewed the

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with our ryan and gateway programs we

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continue to make history every day

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because of each of you

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let's take time to celebrate this

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both by looking back at what we as a

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center have accomplished but also by

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looking forward to what's to come

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today we push forward to the moon

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tomorrow we leap to greater heights and

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new destinations there is history to be

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in mission control we eagerly anticipate

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the first transmissions from unexplored

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hello welcome to our celebration of

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nasa's 60 years in houston from jsc's

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external relations office i'm milika

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in 1961 the nasa administrator announced

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the completion of a location study which

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founded the new manned space fight

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laboratory would be located in houston

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texas on a thousand acres of land to be

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made available to the government by rice

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well the name changed to the manned

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spacecraft center by the time it opened

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for business and years later to the

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lyndon b johnson space center and it has

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served as the home of human space flight

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every single american space flight with

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people on board since gemini 4 in 1965.

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as we look forward to the next 60 years

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we really aim to focus on how johnson

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space center 60 year history is

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propelling us forward to the moon and on

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that this is a reality today we have

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gateway orion and jsc's history office

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i'm going to let each of them introduce

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themselves what they have to do what

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anniversary we're celebrating today i'd

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love for each of you to tell us your

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earliest memory of jsc

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ryan why don't we start with you

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thank you and thanks for the opportunity

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i'm ryan prouty and i am the

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representative here on this esteemed

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panel from space station i am currently

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i've started in flight control have done

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i'm going to cheat a little bit it's not

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my earliest memory but i think probably

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the history of jsc and where we're

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she said i need all of you to stand up

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ah what's happening so we all stand up

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need all of you to look around you

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college kids pretty much we're looking

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history all women have been flying a

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spacecraft i want you to remember this

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finalist for the astronaut selection and

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interview and

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inside of a space station and all the

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my first memory of jsc goes back

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hi there thank you for having me this

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i've been at jsc for 34 years and my

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over and started running the history

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office because there was a need to

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resurrect the history office at that

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time

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and so i've had a lifelong interest in

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space history and of course of jsc's

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history and i've been doing that for

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amazing this is already so much fun i

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think collectively

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there's well over 60 years of experience

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with this group so

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let's take a moment to look back and

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john i have a question for you as the

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manager of the history office can you

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tell us a little bit about what the

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history office does and how it's

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continued to preserve jsc's memories

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sure well preserving nasa's history is

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actually in the agency's charter so it's

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something we're obligated to do

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the jsc history office has been on again

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and off again for the last 60 years for

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the last five years has been very much

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on

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we do a lot of things to preserve our

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history the biggest project we've had

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going on since the late 90s is our oral

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history project

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where we actually talk to individuals

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who are what still here at jsc some have

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retired

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and we get the history of what they did

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in their own words their own experiences

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so it's a very personal way to to

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collect the history now we do a lot of

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other things too but right now we have

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about fourteen hundred oral histories

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and these are accessible to everyone

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uh we manage the jsc history portal

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which is a public website

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and the transcripts of all of these oral

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histories are on that website in

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addition to lots of other information

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about the history of jsc in particular

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and nasa as well we have

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mission transcripts we have editions of

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the jsc roundup from 1961 from the very

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first edition that appeared november 1st

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1961.

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all of those have been scanned in and we

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have them on our portal

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and we just have other information that

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is available to researchers both here

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within nasa for

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use you know if they want to find out

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how things were done in a previous

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program to help them with current and

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future programs they can go to this site

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and and find that information and we

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also support outside researchers whether

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it be universities

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who are looking to write histories

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around the apollo 11 anniversary back in

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2019

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we had a lot of interest and a lot of

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researchers came to us looking for very

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specific information

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these are the people that did the

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documentaries and the motion pictures

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that dealt with that with that

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anniversary so

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yeah they're go out there and look at

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that website there's lots of great

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information there to be had about jsc's

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history

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that's fantastic i bet you have some

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stories to tell based on those 1400 oral

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histories wow i can't i have a follow-up

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question for you now dude what's the

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most memorable uh

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interview you had or memorable story

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someone's told in that

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well i think some of the ones that are

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the most memorable is you know we got to

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interview people like neil armstrong so

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we have his oral history on our website

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a lot of the other apollo astronauts uh

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some of the people we even went back to

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you know nasa's predecessor organization

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the naca

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and we've interviewed people from back

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in the 50s of what things were like even

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before nasa existed or before jsc

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existed here so

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uh and it's and it's not just the famous

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people we also have some engineers that

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worked out there and you know in the

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battles of the buildings to get their

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stories so it's not just

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the managers and the astronauts and the

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directors it's we try to get a broad

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spectrum

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across the board of people who work here

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at jsc

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definitely and i believe that that will

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really

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help tell our story so you know jsc has

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had a hand in several areas of human

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spaceflight and one of those areas is

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with the international space station

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program

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excuse me ryan building the

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international space station made the

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last 21 years of continuous human

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presence in space possible can you speak

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to some of the key areas of achievement

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that have added to the legacy of jsc

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oh it's an inter interesting way you

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wrote that question right that the word

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that really jumps out to me is legacy

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right there's a difference between

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um

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achievements or or things that we did

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but there's this legacy that any legacy

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of iss is going to be a legacy of jsc as

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the home for human space flight

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um

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the first one that comes to mind is just

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how much we have learned about the

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advancement and achievement for how to

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do research in space

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lessons that will help us in our further

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exploration to the moon and to mars

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at the core

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however i think there are

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legacies in in the people and in the

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culture

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that

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his i'll say history will mark maybe

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john will mark

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um

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at jsc that really do work to propel us

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to the future

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clearly technical competence

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iss is the largest international

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the type of leaders that we've um grown

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and

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um

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taught in this long duration

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program in program integration and how

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to balance risk

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for the long haul right it's we didn't

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do short little sprints we have been

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doing a marathon with little sprints on

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top of it along the way and

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it's it's a different way to think about

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risk and i think that's a skill that

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we've built for the whole center

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um cross-center collaboration station

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would not be possible with help and work

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from every single center across the

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agency

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um

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one of my

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i believe at its core will be one of the

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largest standing legacies are

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international collaboration

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and

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space leadership on the world stage

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it's the the international piece is what

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brought me here

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was to get to work um

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doing something that was you know bigger

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than me but um at an at an international

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level

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and then lately i'll say a new legacy

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that that we're just leaning into

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is leading the way for building a

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commercial economy in low earth orbit

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this is not something i thought i would

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be doing when i started before we even

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flew the first element so i think

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there's a lot in there

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definitely there's a lot to unpack there

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too and i hope we can get more into that

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um

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you know everyone everyone definitely

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nodded when you said commercial earth

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orbit economy and the international

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space station has really helped us kick

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that off so camille since commercial leo

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is a recent undertaking at nasa can you

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talk a little bit about its goals and

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aspirations

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absolutely i'm delighted to it's one of

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so um so as you said commercial leo

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development program is one of the newest

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programs at the agency and of course we

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are housed here at johnson space center

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but we are responsible for creating and

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enabling a sustainable and robust

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marketplace and economy in earth orbit

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beyond the international space station

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um when it's it comes to

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the end of its life

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which we are now scheduled for 2030

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um but our office is enabling

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the next comm the next

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blurs orbit platforms right that will be

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owned and operated not by nasa which the

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international space station is but owned

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and operated by commercial companies and

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commercial providers

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and the reason for that is that we want

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to one have a sustainable presence in

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earth orbit as a nation

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but nasa also has goals to continue to

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do research in microgravity environment

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right

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using

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these platforms as a technology testbed

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for exploration

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continuing to do human research um

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you know on the research on the human

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body and how the adaptation of space

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impacts the human body and so we're

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still going to have these needs

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for earth orbit research and so we are

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going we hope to be one of many

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customers of these commercial platforms

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but in the process right we if we talk

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about an economy when we talk about

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economy there's a supply and there's

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demand and that commercial platform is

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the supply side but we are also doing

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things now

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using the international space space

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station to stimulate the demand and and

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ryan touched a little bit on that but

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things like private astronaut missions

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as part of that stimulating the demand

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the commercial use for advertising

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marketing and entertainment of the iss

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is part of that demand so we're not just

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enabling the supply with these

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commercial platforms but we are also

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stimulating demand so that there's a

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robust marketplace um at the end

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definitely and it allows us to explore

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our universe more than ever and you know

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speaking of universe we're going back to

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the moon or forward to the moon and on

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to mars so let's talk a little bit about

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orion

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uh chuck would love to hear from you on

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how past jsc work on apollo has

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contributed to orion and how and when

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orion got started there's a rich history

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there

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okay yeah uh let's see so you can you

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know just take a look at orion and you

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can tell that we certainly leveraged

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some specific

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uh aspects of the apollo

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program uh you know architecturally

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having a separate

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crew module service module a launch

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abort system

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the shape

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of the crew module you know physics

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stays the same between

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uh decades so physics kind of dictates

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uh the shape is an appropriate one

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for the mission that we're flying so um

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we obviously leveraged that

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we tweaked the shape just a little bit

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but uh not so much that we couldn't use

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the error sciences

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database that was developed uh back as

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part of the

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apollo program

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we leveraged certain things from apollo

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like

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the tps the thermal protection system

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material on the base heat shield of the

567
00:21:12,230 --> 00:21:09,679
crew module it's a little bit different

568
00:21:13,510 --> 00:21:12,240
than apollo we we currently put it on in

569
00:21:15,510 --> 00:21:13,520
in blocks

570
00:21:17,750 --> 00:21:15,520
instead of filling individual uh

571
00:21:20,390 --> 00:21:17,760
honeycomb cells but the

572
00:21:22,710 --> 00:21:20,400
yavcoat material is essentially on the

573
00:21:24,789 --> 00:21:22,720
same material it was flown

574
00:21:26,630 --> 00:21:24,799
on apollo um

575
00:21:29,110 --> 00:21:26,640
you know our analysis

576
00:21:32,149 --> 00:21:29,120
tools and the platforms they run on

577
00:21:34,710 --> 00:21:32,159
are certainly different and and upgraded

578
00:21:37,270 --> 00:21:34,720
but some of the core techniques that we

579
00:21:39,590 --> 00:21:37,280
used uh for our

580
00:21:41,909 --> 00:21:39,600
engineering analyses

581
00:21:44,230 --> 00:21:41,919
we leveraged from apollo

582
00:21:46,390 --> 00:21:44,240
some of the ops techniques obviously

583
00:21:49,270 --> 00:21:46,400
began back

584
00:21:51,990 --> 00:21:49,280
in apollo and i would just say um

585
00:21:53,990 --> 00:21:52,000
you know just uh generally you know

586
00:21:57,350 --> 00:21:54,000
across the entire team

587
00:21:59,909 --> 00:21:57,360
there's a enormous body of knowledge

588
00:22:02,310 --> 00:21:59,919
that was established

589
00:22:05,350 --> 00:22:02,320
you know back from back from apollo you

590
00:22:06,710 --> 00:22:05,360
know in terms of how orion got started

591
00:22:10,789 --> 00:22:06,720
um

592
00:22:13,430 --> 00:22:10,799
i think the country

593
00:22:16,470 --> 00:22:13,440
came their realization that uh the nasa

594
00:22:18,230 --> 00:22:16,480
man human space flight program

595
00:22:20,470 --> 00:22:18,240
we needed a different mission we needed

596
00:22:23,990 --> 00:22:20,480
a different uh vehicle

597
00:22:26,470 --> 00:22:24,000
i think it was january of uh 2004 that

598
00:22:27,510 --> 00:22:26,480
president bush announced i think they

599
00:22:29,350 --> 00:22:27,520
called it the

600
00:22:31,990 --> 00:22:29,360
the vision for space

601
00:22:34,870 --> 00:22:32,000
exploration and said uh we're going back

602
00:22:38,870 --> 00:22:34,880
uh to the moon so as part of that

603
00:22:43,110 --> 00:22:38,880
the cev the crew exploration vehicle was

604
00:22:46,630 --> 00:22:43,120
born later became uh known as orion

605
00:22:49,029 --> 00:22:46,640
and the focus started a lot on the

606
00:22:51,430 --> 00:22:49,039
cev spacecraft itself

607
00:22:53,350 --> 00:22:51,440
we organized a team

608
00:22:56,630 --> 00:22:53,360
stationed that team at headquarters to

609
00:22:59,669 --> 00:22:56,640
write an rfp a request for a proposal

610
00:23:00,870 --> 00:22:59,679
that led to a contract award for two um

611
00:23:02,149 --> 00:23:00,880
competing

612
00:23:05,590 --> 00:23:02,159
teams

613
00:23:07,909 --> 00:23:05,600
we were

614
00:23:10,070 --> 00:23:07,919
off and running with a prime

615
00:23:12,710 --> 00:23:10,080
contractor

616
00:23:14,950 --> 00:23:12,720
shortly after that mike griffin came in

617
00:23:17,029 --> 00:23:14,960
dr griffin came in as the new

618
00:23:18,870 --> 00:23:17,039
nasa administrator

619
00:23:20,549 --> 00:23:18,880
he realized there were some additional

620
00:23:22,390 --> 00:23:20,559
things that needed to be addressed in

621
00:23:24,230 --> 00:23:22,400
addition to the spacecraft

622
00:23:27,350 --> 00:23:24,240
itself like what launch vehicle is it

623
00:23:29,590 --> 00:23:27,360
going to fly on uh what's the lander

624
00:23:32,789 --> 00:23:29,600
going to look like and so he put

625
00:23:34,470 --> 00:23:32,799
together a study team to kind of put

626
00:23:36,310 --> 00:23:34,480
put together thoughts for the rest of

627
00:23:38,070 --> 00:23:36,320
the program

628
00:23:41,029 --> 00:23:38,080
so to speak

629
00:23:43,830 --> 00:23:41,039
we started the um cev

630
00:23:46,149 --> 00:23:43,840
we called it project office back then

631
00:23:47,350 --> 00:23:46,159
2006

632
00:23:49,190 --> 00:23:47,360
maybe

633
00:23:51,909 --> 00:23:49,200
half a year year or so later the

634
00:23:55,029 --> 00:23:51,919
constellation program was born and

635
00:23:56,230 --> 00:23:55,039
and cev was later named as orion became

636
00:23:58,470 --> 00:23:56,240
a project

637
00:24:00,470 --> 00:23:58,480
uh working as part of

638
00:24:02,950 --> 00:24:00,480
the constellation program

639
00:24:05,029 --> 00:24:02,960
and we down select it to a single prime

640
00:24:05,909 --> 00:24:05,039
contractor of those two and i think it

641
00:24:08,630 --> 00:24:05,919
was

642
00:24:10,470 --> 00:24:08,640
2007 or so um

643
00:24:12,870 --> 00:24:10,480
spacecraft configuration evolved over

644
00:24:14,390 --> 00:24:12,880
time we added the europeans as a partner

645
00:24:17,430 --> 00:24:14,400
and i think it was

646
00:24:18,630 --> 00:24:17,440
uh 2012 to supply a significant part of

647
00:24:24,630 --> 00:24:18,640
the

648
00:24:26,390 --> 00:24:24,640
service module or esm

649
00:24:27,990 --> 00:24:26,400
we've flown three times

650
00:24:31,110 --> 00:24:28,000
we flew

651
00:24:33,909 --> 00:24:31,120
a lot of the early work was

652
00:24:36,310 --> 00:24:33,919
kind of focus towards the abort systems

653
00:24:39,190 --> 00:24:36,320
that we would use so in 2010 we flew

654
00:24:41,430 --> 00:24:39,200
what we called pa one or pad abort one

655
00:24:44,470 --> 00:24:41,440
uh the white sands mitchell

656
00:24:46,789 --> 00:24:44,480
white sands missile range in 2010

657
00:24:48,870 --> 00:24:46,799
2014 we had an orbital space flight

658
00:24:50,390 --> 00:24:48,880
called the eft-1 that we launched on a

659
00:24:53,350 --> 00:24:50,400
delta heavy

660
00:24:56,630 --> 00:24:53,360
and in 2019 we did our um

661
00:24:58,710 --> 00:24:56,640
first ascent abort uh flight test

662
00:25:00,390 --> 00:24:58,720
uh out

663
00:25:02,070 --> 00:25:00,400
at cape canaveral

664
00:25:04,149 --> 00:25:02,080
and uh right now we're getting ready for

665
00:25:05,750 --> 00:25:04,159
our fourth flight which will be uh

666
00:25:08,390 --> 00:25:05,760
artemis one and it's right around the

667
00:25:12,549 --> 00:25:10,549
very very exciting i see everybody's

668
00:25:14,230 --> 00:25:12,559
eyes light up when you set artemis one

669
00:25:16,310 --> 00:25:14,240
and um for those of you that are

670
00:25:18,470 --> 00:25:16,320
watching us today you know i started off

671
00:25:20,230 --> 00:25:18,480
250 miles above the earth and we're

672
00:25:21,590 --> 00:25:20,240
going further and further away so let's

673
00:25:24,950 --> 00:25:21,600
talk a little bit about the lunar

674
00:25:26,710 --> 00:25:24,960
outpost nasa gateway program and um i

675
00:25:28,470 --> 00:25:26,720
wanted to go to rod for a second can you

676
00:25:31,830 --> 00:25:28,480
tell us what the aspirations are for

677
00:25:33,830 --> 00:25:31,840
gateway and how it fits in with artemis

678
00:25:36,549 --> 00:25:33,840
absolutely um

679
00:25:39,510 --> 00:25:36,559
one of the things we learned from apollo

680
00:25:42,070 --> 00:25:39,520
is is that you know that was a very

681
00:25:44,549 --> 00:25:42,080
sprint-like mission you you had a very

682
00:25:46,789 --> 00:25:44,559
limited capability in order to achieve

683
00:25:48,230 --> 00:25:46,799
that goal with the technologies we had

684
00:25:50,310 --> 00:25:48,240
you know the the first

685
00:25:51,590 --> 00:25:50,320
lunar landing was only several hours

686
00:25:53,430 --> 00:25:51,600
before the crew had to get back in and

687
00:25:56,390 --> 00:25:53,440
come home and so

688
00:25:58,390 --> 00:25:56,400
the purpose of our program is to make a

689
00:26:00,870 --> 00:25:58,400
more sustainable approach to exploration

690
00:26:02,789 --> 00:26:00,880
artemis is attempting to do that with

691
00:26:05,029 --> 00:26:02,799
the major components orion being of

692
00:26:07,750 --> 00:26:05,039
course the crude vehicle that gets the

693
00:26:09,830 --> 00:26:07,760
crew to the lunar vicinity a lander that

694
00:26:11,990 --> 00:26:09,840
gets them to the surface and gateway

695
00:26:14,630 --> 00:26:12,000
which orbits the moon and provides that

696
00:26:16,789 --> 00:26:14,640
transportation link between the crude

697
00:26:18,390 --> 00:26:16,799
vehicle from earth to the crude vehicle

698
00:26:20,789 --> 00:26:18,400
that gets you to the surface so by

699
00:26:23,190 --> 00:26:20,799
breaking up that transportation

700
00:26:25,190 --> 00:26:23,200
loop so to speak each of those vehicles

701
00:26:27,350 --> 00:26:25,200
can specialize in their area of

702
00:26:30,149 --> 00:26:27,360
expertise and what they need to do and

703
00:26:31,669 --> 00:26:30,159
allows us more robust exploration of the

704
00:26:32,470 --> 00:26:31,679
surface of the moon

705
00:26:35,350 --> 00:26:32,480
so

706
00:26:38,149 --> 00:26:35,360
with the gateway we can leave

707
00:26:40,070 --> 00:26:38,159
an hls or a lander docked for long

708
00:26:42,070 --> 00:26:40,080
periods of time and reuse it which makes

709
00:26:43,830 --> 00:26:42,080
it sustainable the gateway can

710
00:26:46,149 --> 00:26:43,840
transition its orbit to other

711
00:26:47,990 --> 00:26:46,159
inclinations which means we can explore

712
00:26:49,590 --> 00:26:48,000
almost nearly any point or on the

713
00:26:52,390 --> 00:26:49,600
surface of the moon whereas before we

714
00:26:55,590 --> 00:26:52,400
were very limited to equatorial type

715
00:26:57,830 --> 00:26:55,600
landing sites and and so therefore the

716
00:27:00,549 --> 00:26:57,840
the goal of gateway is to create that

717
00:27:04,630 --> 00:27:00,559
platform it's a base camp in lunar orbit

718
00:27:10,070 --> 00:27:07,669
that was a a wonderful concise way of

719
00:27:12,149 --> 00:27:10,080
putting it so uh just to elaborate that

720
00:27:14,310 --> 00:27:12,159
a little bit more so how will that help

721
00:27:16,149 --> 00:27:14,320
us with uh upcoming artemis missions as

722
00:27:19,590 --> 00:27:16,159
far as getting getting boots on the

723
00:27:20,870 --> 00:27:19,600
ground um on the lunar surface

724
00:27:23,110 --> 00:27:20,880
well it

725
00:27:25,590 --> 00:27:23,120
it allows you to bring the vehicles

726
00:27:28,149 --> 00:27:25,600
together so the orion can dock and the

727
00:27:30,630 --> 00:27:28,159
and so the gateway itself is composed of

728
00:27:33,110 --> 00:27:30,640
seven major components it has a power

729
00:27:35,269 --> 00:27:33,120
propulsion element which is basically a

730
00:27:37,510 --> 00:27:35,279
satellite bus which generates the power

731
00:27:38,710 --> 00:27:37,520
and does the attitude control of stack

732
00:27:40,789 --> 00:27:38,720
and distributes power to the other

733
00:27:42,870 --> 00:27:40,799
elements we have two habitable elements

734
00:27:45,590 --> 00:27:42,880
one is made by northrop grumman called

735
00:27:47,909 --> 00:27:45,600
the halo and one is made by the esa

736
00:27:49,669 --> 00:27:47,919
our esa partners called the ihab and

737
00:27:52,070 --> 00:27:49,679
these provide the living spaces for the

738
00:27:53,990 --> 00:27:52,080
crew the key elements to these

739
00:27:56,070 --> 00:27:54,000
volumes in addition to living space are

740
00:27:57,990 --> 00:27:56,080
the ability for vehicles to dock to them

741
00:27:59,590 --> 00:27:58,000
and so now we can have an aggregation

742
00:28:01,830 --> 00:27:59,600
point where we can bring in

743
00:28:03,830 --> 00:28:01,840
all kinds of future vehicles we can

744
00:28:06,470 --> 00:28:03,840
bring in logistics commercial resupply

745
00:28:08,389 --> 00:28:06,480
vehicles future commercial crude

746
00:28:10,710 --> 00:28:08,399
vehicles and of course the commercial

747
00:28:12,950 --> 00:28:10,720
lunar landers so by creating this

748
00:28:15,269 --> 00:28:12,960
network of architecture and not single

749
00:28:17,269 --> 00:28:15,279
point designs driven by a very specific

750
00:28:18,389 --> 00:28:17,279
mission we have a more flexible and

751
00:28:21,510 --> 00:28:18,399
robust

752
00:28:24,310 --> 00:28:21,520
lunar exploration capability

753
00:28:26,710 --> 00:28:24,320
robust in it it truly it takes a village

754
00:28:28,389 --> 00:28:26,720
as we've heard from everybody um i just

755
00:28:29,110 --> 00:28:28,399
wanted to take a step back for a second

756
00:28:30,470 --> 00:28:29,120
so

757
00:28:33,190 --> 00:28:30,480
uh camille

758
00:28:36,389 --> 00:28:33,200
uh leo is commercial leo is is very new

759
00:28:38,230 --> 00:28:36,399
nasa as you mentioned and how how do you

760
00:28:39,830 --> 00:28:38,240
can you give us some some perspective on

761
00:28:41,029 --> 00:28:39,840
how it's preparing us for the moon and

762
00:28:43,110 --> 00:28:41,039
mars

763
00:28:44,870 --> 00:28:43,120
yeah so as i mentioned

764
00:28:47,909 --> 00:28:44,880
you know we so

765
00:28:53,750 --> 00:28:51,269
a step from the iss right i talked about

766
00:28:55,590 --> 00:28:53,760
iss being owned and operated by nasa

767
00:28:58,230 --> 00:28:55,600
commercial platform being owned and

768
00:29:00,630 --> 00:28:58,240
operated by commercial but we nasa are

769
00:29:03,590 --> 00:29:00,640
going to be one of many customers and so

770
00:29:06,149 --> 00:29:03,600
we want to one maintain a sustained

771
00:29:08,950 --> 00:29:06,159
presence in earth orbit right as a

772
00:29:11,269 --> 00:29:08,960
nation so that's one of our goals two we

773
00:29:15,590 --> 00:29:11,279
want to enable commercial marketplace

774
00:29:19,590 --> 00:29:15,600
this really opens up commercialization

775
00:29:21,750 --> 00:29:19,600
and access to space for everyone right

776
00:29:23,669 --> 00:29:21,760
we started with the transportation

777
00:29:25,750 --> 00:29:23,679
systems the ccp

778
00:29:27,990 --> 00:29:25,760
the um commercial crew program the

779
00:29:31,190 --> 00:29:28,000
commercial resupply program as

780
00:29:33,430 --> 00:29:31,200
transportation systems commercially but

781
00:29:35,750 --> 00:29:33,440
now we're working on the destination the

782
00:29:38,630 --> 00:29:35,760
platforms the commercial platforms and

783
00:29:41,669 --> 00:29:38,640
so being one of many customers we will

784
00:29:44,470 --> 00:29:41,679
still have needs in terms of

785
00:29:47,269 --> 00:29:44,480
wanting to do research in earth orbit

786
00:29:50,710 --> 00:29:47,279
wanting to test out our eclipse system

787
00:29:52,230 --> 00:29:50,720
for exploration right for as part of the

788
00:29:54,389 --> 00:29:52,240
atomos program

789
00:29:57,430 --> 00:29:54,399
wanting to still

790
00:29:59,669 --> 00:29:57,440
understand there are a lot of um risk

791
00:30:01,269 --> 00:29:59,679
human risk right um

792
00:30:04,070 --> 00:30:01,279
to

793
00:30:06,870 --> 00:30:04,080
flying out astronauts for long durations

794
00:30:09,350 --> 00:30:06,880
our human uh missions to mars for

795
00:30:11,350 --> 00:30:09,360
example there are a lot of risk we're

796
00:30:13,430 --> 00:30:11,360
still buying down from a human

797
00:30:17,110 --> 00:30:13,440
adaptation perspective

798
00:30:18,230 --> 00:30:17,120
and so using these platforms to continue

799
00:30:20,950 --> 00:30:18,240
to do

800
00:30:23,590 --> 00:30:20,960
research in the area of human research

801
00:30:25,430 --> 00:30:23,600
is one of the big things the big areas

802
00:30:28,389 --> 00:30:25,440
we'll be focusing on

803
00:30:30,310 --> 00:30:28,399
um in addition to using it for other

804
00:30:33,350 --> 00:30:30,320
needs that we may have

805
00:30:34,870 --> 00:30:33,360
um you know beyond technology doing

806
00:30:37,590 --> 00:30:34,880
microgravity

807
00:30:38,870 --> 00:30:37,600
life science experiments biological

808
00:30:42,149 --> 00:30:38,880
experiments

809
00:30:44,470 --> 00:30:42,159
doing earth and space science research

810
00:30:46,230 --> 00:30:44,480
like we do on the iss there will be

811
00:30:49,269 --> 00:30:46,240
capabilities on these commercial

812
00:30:52,149 --> 00:30:49,279
platforms for us to be able to do that

813
00:30:54,389 --> 00:30:52,159
continue that type of research um and so

814
00:30:56,470 --> 00:30:54,399
we're really excited to see what these

815
00:30:58,149 --> 00:30:56,480
commercial providers come up with you

816
00:30:59,029 --> 00:30:58,159
know that

817
00:31:05,110 --> 00:30:59,039
we

818
00:31:07,990 --> 00:31:05,120
more innovative and they're more agile

819
00:31:12,149 --> 00:31:08,000
and nimble but also with competition it

820
00:31:14,870 --> 00:31:12,159
drives some costs for for us as nasa and

821
00:31:17,110 --> 00:31:14,880
as a country and so we're really excited

822
00:31:20,149 --> 00:31:17,120
to see what designs they come up with

823
00:31:23,029 --> 00:31:20,159
and um you know and to to partner with

824
00:31:25,190 --> 00:31:23,039
them to enable this new capability

825
00:31:26,310 --> 00:31:25,200
coming online

826
00:31:29,269 --> 00:31:26,320
that was a

827
00:31:30,389 --> 00:31:29,279
fantastic response and um you know one

828
00:31:31,669 --> 00:31:30,399
one of the things that you truly

829
00:31:33,830 --> 00:31:31,679
mentioned was the

830
00:31:36,870 --> 00:31:33,840
the platforms that were using and the

831
00:31:38,789 --> 00:31:36,880
research in low earth orbit so

832
00:31:41,430 --> 00:31:38,799
ryan i wanted to toss it back to you to

833
00:31:42,310 --> 00:31:41,440
talk a little bit about some of the

834
00:31:43,909 --> 00:31:42,320
um

835
00:31:46,070 --> 00:31:43,919
what stands out to you as being one of

836
00:31:48,710 --> 00:31:46,080
the most exciting advancements being

837
00:31:50,870 --> 00:31:48,720
made to enable scientific scientific

838
00:31:52,549 --> 00:31:50,880
discovery um aboard the international

839
00:31:54,630 --> 00:31:52,559
space station what is there something

840
00:31:55,750 --> 00:31:54,640
that you would like to touch on

841
00:31:57,750 --> 00:31:55,760
oh

842
00:32:00,870 --> 00:31:57,760
yes there's i have lots of favorites

843
00:32:02,870 --> 00:32:00,880
there's a good question

844
00:32:05,029 --> 00:32:02,880
that's not fair um i always tell

845
00:32:07,110 --> 00:32:05,039
everybody on my team find that one find

846
00:32:08,549 --> 00:32:07,120
that one thing that really gets you

847
00:32:10,230 --> 00:32:08,559
jazzed and

848
00:32:12,549 --> 00:32:10,240
you know i could think through a whole

849
00:32:14,950 --> 00:32:12,559
list of even in the last

850
00:32:17,350 --> 00:32:14,960
five years what we have figured out to

851
00:32:19,269 --> 00:32:17,360
do in space between

852
00:32:20,870 --> 00:32:19,279
microbe identification where we used to

853
00:32:23,509 --> 00:32:20,880
have to return samples to the ground we

854
00:32:26,470 --> 00:32:23,519
can now do that on orbit um

855
00:32:29,590 --> 00:32:26,480
molecular biology processes where we

856
00:32:32,710 --> 00:32:29,600
learned how to break repair and

857
00:32:34,310 --> 00:32:32,720
resequence dna in space you know this

858
00:32:35,990 --> 00:32:34,320
this comes into play like camille's

859
00:32:37,830 --> 00:32:36,000
saying when we learn

860
00:32:40,389 --> 00:32:37,840
um or when we have

861
00:32:43,269 --> 00:32:40,399
our crews way out there and they've

862
00:32:45,750 --> 00:32:43,279
we we need to repair damaged dna caused

863
00:32:48,149 --> 00:32:45,760
by radiation or even when they come home

864
00:32:49,269 --> 00:32:48,159
i'm at a conference right now and just

865
00:32:51,830 --> 00:32:49,279
today

866
00:32:55,669 --> 00:32:51,840
i heard a number of scientists talk

867
00:32:58,789 --> 00:32:55,679
about tissue chip experiments and aiding

868
00:33:00,310 --> 00:32:58,799
in the science of cell regeneration

869
00:33:02,870 --> 00:33:00,320
and we're doing experiments on the space

870
00:33:04,870 --> 00:33:02,880
station right now where we're looking at

871
00:33:07,110 --> 00:33:04,880
growing

872
00:33:09,590 --> 00:33:07,120
flat tissues like skin or tubular

873
00:33:10,870 --> 00:33:09,600
tissues like our vascular system

874
00:33:14,549 --> 00:33:10,880
all the way

875
00:33:16,470 --> 00:33:14,559
to full up solid organs and how

876
00:33:19,269 --> 00:33:16,480
doing fundamental science in low earth

877
00:33:23,350 --> 00:33:19,279
orbit helps us do that

878
00:33:26,630 --> 00:33:25,190
better on earth and then help us explore

879
00:33:29,190 --> 00:33:26,640
the moon and mars so there's there's

880
00:33:31,750 --> 00:33:29,200
like a triple whammy here if not more

881
00:33:33,750 --> 00:33:31,760
just a deep space exactly it's just our

882
00:33:35,750 --> 00:33:33,760
universe is here to explore and i see

883
00:33:37,750 --> 00:33:35,760
everyone smiling and nodding and i

884
00:33:39,750 --> 00:33:37,760
wanted to take a minute uh john i have

885
00:33:42,389 --> 00:33:39,760
another question for you so

886
00:33:43,750 --> 00:33:42,399
um as as uh

887
00:33:46,149 --> 00:33:43,760
the manager

888
00:33:47,750 --> 00:33:46,159
of the history office

889
00:33:49,590 --> 00:33:47,760
um

890
00:33:52,070 --> 00:33:49,600
share your perspective on the center's

891
00:33:54,070 --> 00:33:52,080
evolution and how it's preparing us for

892
00:33:56,389 --> 00:33:54,080
the moon and mars

893
00:33:58,549 --> 00:33:56,399
okay it's a big question but i'll try to

894
00:34:01,190 --> 00:33:58,559
summarize it in just a few minutes

895
00:34:03,350 --> 00:34:01,200
uh so let's go back to maybe when nasa

896
00:34:04,870 --> 00:34:03,360
was founded in 1958

897
00:34:06,630 --> 00:34:04,880
about a month after that they

898
00:34:07,750 --> 00:34:06,640
established something called the space

899
00:34:09,430 --> 00:34:07,760
task group

900
00:34:11,510 --> 00:34:09,440
and they were tasked with developing the

901
00:34:12,950 --> 00:34:11,520
first human spacecraft for for the

902
00:34:14,470 --> 00:34:12,960
united states that was the mercury

903
00:34:16,629 --> 00:34:14,480
project

904
00:34:19,510 --> 00:34:16,639
and it was moving along and then in may

905
00:34:20,869 --> 00:34:19,520
of 1961 president kennedy says well this

906
00:34:22,790 --> 00:34:20,879
is good we've had we've now had a

907
00:34:24,230 --> 00:34:22,800
15-minute suborbital flight alan

908
00:34:25,909 --> 00:34:24,240
shepard's flight

909
00:34:28,310 --> 00:34:25,919
but now we want to go to the moon and do

910
00:34:29,829 --> 00:34:28,320
it before the end of the decade

911
00:34:31,990 --> 00:34:29,839
all of a sudden everybody realized a

912
00:34:34,470 --> 00:34:32,000
space task group you know working in

913
00:34:35,990 --> 00:34:34,480
their offices at langley research center

914
00:34:37,829 --> 00:34:36,000
they just didn't have the facilities to

915
00:34:40,230 --> 00:34:37,839
handle that kind of massive project in

916
00:34:42,069 --> 00:34:40,240
that short time period and so

917
00:34:43,589 --> 00:34:42,079
they had to establish as you said at the

918
00:34:45,030 --> 00:34:43,599
opening the manned spacecraft center

919
00:34:46,550 --> 00:34:45,040
here in houston

920
00:34:47,990 --> 00:34:46,560
and that took a few years to actually

921
00:34:49,109 --> 00:34:48,000
build the center here at clear lake in

922
00:34:50,790 --> 00:34:49,119
the meantime

923
00:34:52,629 --> 00:34:50,800
they were working out of 14 different

924
00:34:54,790 --> 00:34:52,639
buildings in southeast houston trying to

925
00:34:57,270 --> 00:34:54,800
make this whole project work starting

926
00:34:58,870 --> 00:34:57,280
the gemini program working on apollo

927
00:35:00,790 --> 00:34:58,880
it was an evolutionary thing they were

928
00:35:02,630 --> 00:35:00,800
literally they brought about 600 people

929
00:35:05,589 --> 00:35:02,640
from langley and they were hiring like

930
00:35:07,430 --> 00:35:05,599
crazy because they needed people to do

931
00:35:09,589 --> 00:35:07,440
this amazing job of getting us to the

932
00:35:11,270 --> 00:35:09,599
moon in less than 10 years

933
00:35:13,030 --> 00:35:11,280
and and really nobody knew how to do

934
00:35:14,550 --> 00:35:13,040
that so they were writing the textbooks

935
00:35:15,750 --> 00:35:14,560
as they were building the buildings and

936
00:35:17,829 --> 00:35:15,760
figuring out what kind of training

937
00:35:19,750 --> 00:35:17,839
facilities they needed and and how do

938
00:35:21,109 --> 00:35:19,760
you select more astronauts and and all

939
00:35:23,030 --> 00:35:21,119
those things were tasked to the manned

940
00:35:25,270 --> 00:35:23,040
spacecraft center

941
00:35:26,790 --> 00:35:25,280
and that evolved through the 1960s and

942
00:35:28,390 --> 00:35:26,800
we went through the gemini program to

943
00:35:29,990 --> 00:35:28,400
test out all the technologies that we

944
00:35:32,630 --> 00:35:30,000
would need to get us to the moon the

945
00:35:34,790 --> 00:35:32,640
rendezvous the docking the space walking

946
00:35:36,790 --> 00:35:34,800
and so forth and keeping people healthy

947
00:35:37,990 --> 00:35:36,800
for long enough that we can get to the

948
00:35:39,910 --> 00:35:38,000
moon and back

949
00:35:42,069 --> 00:35:39,920
and so that was an evolutionary process

950
00:35:43,670 --> 00:35:42,079
and and once we landed on the moon okay

951
00:35:44,390 --> 00:35:43,680
mission accomplished we finished that

952
00:35:46,310 --> 00:35:44,400
goal

953
00:35:47,990 --> 00:35:46,320
it was time to move on to other projects

954
00:35:48,950 --> 00:35:48,000
so the space shuttle came along and of

955
00:35:51,349 --> 00:35:48,960
course

956
00:35:53,430 --> 00:35:51,359
nasa jsc in particular had to adapt to

957
00:35:56,230 --> 00:35:53,440
that new program it was far more complex

958
00:35:58,390 --> 00:35:56,240
nobody had ever built a reusable space

959
00:36:00,710 --> 00:35:58,400
vehicle like the space shuttle so we

960
00:36:02,870 --> 00:36:00,720
needed to learn how to do that so we

961
00:36:05,510 --> 00:36:02,880
used the facilities we already had here

962
00:36:07,589 --> 00:36:05,520
we expanded upon them we had to build

963
00:36:09,750 --> 00:36:07,599
larger training facilities hire new

964
00:36:13,030 --> 00:36:09,760
astronauts so again it was a whole new

965
00:36:14,550 --> 00:36:13,040
level of doing human space flight

966
00:36:16,550 --> 00:36:14,560
and then of course international space

967
00:36:19,270 --> 00:36:16,560
station came along yet again

968
00:36:21,109 --> 00:36:19,280
we had to take on a new you know far

969
00:36:22,870 --> 00:36:21,119
more complex project

970
00:36:25,190 --> 00:36:22,880
learning how to keep people going

971
00:36:26,870 --> 00:36:25,200
essentially 24 7 operations we just

972
00:36:29,829 --> 00:36:26,880
really had not done that before so that

973
00:36:31,670 --> 00:36:29,839
was a whole new process so i think based

974
00:36:34,390 --> 00:36:31,680
on all that experience that we built up

975
00:36:36,710 --> 00:36:34,400
over the last 60 years we are supremely

976
00:36:38,550 --> 00:36:36,720
well positioned to take on all these new

977
00:36:40,950 --> 00:36:38,560
projects that will take us out of low

978
00:36:42,790 --> 00:36:40,960
earth orbit and back to the moon and

979
00:36:44,069 --> 00:36:42,800
hopefully beyond that in the next few

980
00:36:46,150 --> 00:36:44,079
years so

981
00:36:48,069 --> 00:36:46,160
we have the we have the facilities we

982
00:36:49,990 --> 00:36:48,079
have the people we have the expertise we

983
00:36:51,430 --> 00:36:50,000
have the knowledge it's it's all in

984
00:36:53,750 --> 00:36:51,440
place

985
00:36:55,670 --> 00:36:53,760
and from from speaking to all of you i

986
00:36:58,470 --> 00:36:55,680
also see the element of passion there

987
00:36:59,990 --> 00:36:58,480
you guys are all very very excited about

988
00:37:01,910 --> 00:37:00,000
this new era of exploration and

989
00:37:03,430 --> 00:37:01,920
discovery so i wanted to open it up to

990
00:37:05,910 --> 00:37:03,440
the group a little bit

991
00:37:07,750 --> 00:37:05,920
um i would love to hear from all of you

992
00:37:10,069 --> 00:37:07,760
some of you if you can share one thing

993
00:37:12,310 --> 00:37:10,079
with our viewers today about how jsc is

994
00:37:13,430 --> 00:37:12,320
preparing us for exploration and

995
00:37:15,109 --> 00:37:13,440
discovery

996
00:37:17,030 --> 00:37:15,119
from your perspective or the area that

997
00:37:22,870 --> 00:37:17,040
you work in um

998
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:26,630
then i'll answer it once

999
00:37:30,150 --> 00:37:28,230
okay well i'll just jump in because it's

1000
00:37:32,150 --> 00:37:30,160
kind of a continuation to my previous

1001
00:37:34,470 --> 00:37:32,160
answer and i'm going to jump off what

1002
00:37:36,710 --> 00:37:34,480
ryan said about the uh the cell studies

1003
00:37:38,390 --> 00:37:36,720
that are now going on on space station

1004
00:37:40,710 --> 00:37:38,400
i remember when i worked on shuttle mir

1005
00:37:42,230 --> 00:37:40,720
we did one of the first cell biology

1006
00:37:44,550 --> 00:37:42,240
experiments trying to grow a cell

1007
00:37:46,069 --> 00:37:44,560
culture aboard the mere space station

1008
00:37:48,150 --> 00:37:46,079
and compared to what's happening today

1009
00:37:49,990 --> 00:37:48,160
it was relatively primitive

1010
00:37:51,510 --> 00:37:50,000
but even back then we knew that it was

1011
00:37:53,190 --> 00:37:51,520
just the start of something big that

1012
00:37:55,670 --> 00:37:53,200
eventually we could get to where we are

1013
00:37:57,109 --> 00:37:55,680
today and move beyond that

1014
00:37:59,829 --> 00:37:57,119
to actually build we could actually

1015
00:38:01,829 --> 00:37:59,839
build organs in in microgravity aboard a

1016
00:38:04,710 --> 00:38:01,839
facility and so that evolutionary

1017
00:38:06,470 --> 00:38:04,720
process is really what is going to get

1018
00:38:08,150 --> 00:38:06,480
us to moon and mars not just in the

1019
00:38:09,910 --> 00:38:08,160
science areas which i'm very familiar

1020
00:38:12,310 --> 00:38:09,920
with but also all the technology we

1021
00:38:13,829 --> 00:38:12,320
built on the apollo program to build

1022
00:38:15,510 --> 00:38:13,839
orion

1023
00:38:16,870 --> 00:38:15,520
we've now expanded to the commercial

1024
00:38:19,190 --> 00:38:16,880
area which is something we hadn't

1025
00:38:20,550 --> 00:38:19,200
thought about five or ten years ago and

1026
00:38:22,790 --> 00:38:20,560
that's probably going to open up even

1027
00:38:24,790 --> 00:38:22,800
more areas that we probably can't even

1028
00:38:27,030 --> 00:38:24,800
imagine today

1029
00:38:28,630 --> 00:38:27,040
and and that all of that will help us to

1030
00:38:31,589 --> 00:38:28,640
achieve the goals of getting to the moon

1031
00:38:35,030 --> 00:38:31,599
and then on to mars

1032
00:38:38,470 --> 00:38:35,040
i i would like to add to what ryan said

1033
00:38:40,470 --> 00:38:38,480
a little bit in the area of technology

1034
00:38:43,030 --> 00:38:40,480
you know we've talked about 20 plus

1035
00:38:44,390 --> 00:38:43,040
years of human habitation in space and

1036
00:38:45,750 --> 00:38:44,400
that's extremely important to understand

1037
00:38:48,870 --> 00:38:45,760
what happens to humans living in

1038
00:38:51,670 --> 00:38:48,880
microgravity away from where we evolved

1039
00:38:53,510 --> 00:38:51,680
but people i think also underestimate

1040
00:38:55,109 --> 00:38:53,520
the technology and the importance of the

1041
00:38:57,910 --> 00:38:55,119
technology what that really means is

1042
00:39:00,150 --> 00:38:57,920
we've had 20 years of operational life

1043
00:39:01,990 --> 00:39:00,160
support systems and waste management

1044
00:39:04,069 --> 00:39:02,000
compartments and power systems and

1045
00:39:06,390 --> 00:39:04,079
communication systems and those are

1046
00:39:09,670 --> 00:39:06,400
extremely difficult things to build and

1047
00:39:12,470 --> 00:39:09,680
operate reliably continuously while

1048
00:39:14,950 --> 00:39:12,480
people are dependent on them to survive

1049
00:39:16,550 --> 00:39:14,960
and so the space station has given us

1050
00:39:18,950 --> 00:39:16,560
that opportunity

1051
00:39:21,349 --> 00:39:18,960
and we are applying all that to the next

1052
00:39:23,589 --> 00:39:21,359
generation stations for gateway and then

1053
00:39:25,510 --> 00:39:23,599
for vehicles to go to mars so we have a

1054
00:39:27,589 --> 00:39:25,520
wonderful platform we are continuing to

1055
00:39:29,270 --> 00:39:27,599
exploit with those technologies the

1056
00:39:31,510 --> 00:39:29,280
commercial partners are coming on and

1057
00:39:34,069 --> 00:39:31,520
learn and absorbing that technology as

1058
00:39:35,910 --> 00:39:34,079
fast as we can we can transfer to

1059
00:39:37,430 --> 00:39:35,920
transfer it to them

1060
00:39:40,150 --> 00:39:37,440
and then we're going to take that and

1061
00:39:42,390 --> 00:39:40,160
use that for a gateway in order to

1062
00:39:44,790 --> 00:39:42,400
start and ex and extend that that

1063
00:39:47,109 --> 00:39:44,800
technology to the next logical place to

1064
00:39:49,670 --> 00:39:47,119
be and that's in lunar orbit where we

1065
00:39:51,349 --> 00:39:49,680
can safely still experiment with these

1066
00:39:53,510 --> 00:39:51,359
technologies and figure out how to

1067
00:39:55,030 --> 00:39:53,520
operate these vehicles

1068
00:39:57,270 --> 00:39:55,040
how to make them more autonomous because

1069
00:39:59,190 --> 00:39:57,280
when you go to mars there's many many

1070
00:40:01,109 --> 00:39:59,200
points of the orbit that you don't get

1071
00:40:03,190 --> 00:40:01,119
to talk you have to be autonomous and

1072
00:40:05,349 --> 00:40:03,200
operate independently

1073
00:40:07,750 --> 00:40:05,359
and so i think for me that's one of the

1074
00:40:09,430 --> 00:40:07,760
biggest interesting changes over time is

1075
00:40:11,430 --> 00:40:09,440
how we're moving these technologies

1076
00:40:13,990 --> 00:40:11,440
forward over these different platforms

1077
00:40:15,990 --> 00:40:14,000
and bringing in this commercial aspect

1078
00:40:17,750 --> 00:40:16,000
to help us advance the exploration

1079
00:40:20,230 --> 00:40:17,760
mission

1080
00:40:23,190 --> 00:40:20,240
and can i add to what rod says even in

1081
00:40:26,309 --> 00:40:23,200
earth orbit i mean we are transferring

1082
00:40:28,550 --> 00:40:26,319
the knowledge i mean up until now it's

1083
00:40:29,910 --> 00:40:28,560
nasa's been the only

1084
00:40:33,829 --> 00:40:29,920
agency to

1085
00:40:35,589 --> 00:40:33,839
build a u.s to build a space station

1086
00:40:39,109 --> 00:40:35,599
right and so

1087
00:40:41,990 --> 00:40:39,119
to enable the commercial sector to be

1088
00:40:44,790 --> 00:40:42,000
able to do the same thing we have to

1089
00:40:46,390 --> 00:40:44,800
transfer the knowledge and so that's

1090
00:40:48,710 --> 00:40:46,400
that's one of the things we're going to

1091
00:40:50,950 --> 00:40:48,720
be doing over the next years right it's

1092
00:40:53,829 --> 00:40:50,960
really that trans that transfer of

1093
00:40:54,630 --> 00:40:53,839
knowledge the technology transfer

1094
00:40:57,030 --> 00:40:54,640
um

1095
00:40:59,109 --> 00:40:57,040
so that they are able to

1096
00:41:01,430 --> 00:40:59,119
you know and they will bring their own

1097
00:41:03,349 --> 00:41:01,440
innovation as i said innovative

1098
00:41:07,910 --> 00:41:03,359
solutions to it

1099
00:41:11,349 --> 00:41:07,920
um too and so that that combination is

1100
00:41:13,510 --> 00:41:12,550
i'll add

1101
00:41:15,750 --> 00:41:13,520
um

1102
00:41:17,589 --> 00:41:15,760
to what all three of you said because

1103
00:41:20,550 --> 00:41:17,599
it's all what i love about this entire

1104
00:41:22,309 --> 00:41:20,560
panel is it's all connected so

1105
00:41:23,109 --> 00:41:22,319
right your question was

1106
00:41:27,270 --> 00:41:23,119
how

1107
00:41:30,390 --> 00:41:27,280
forward to the moon and mars and

1108
00:41:32,150 --> 00:41:30,400
jsc is this wonderful little microcosm

1109
00:41:34,710 --> 00:41:32,160
that i feel like i was

1110
00:41:37,829 --> 00:41:34,720
just really privileged to get to to peek

1111
00:41:39,349 --> 00:41:37,839
at in different ways when i was working

1112
00:41:41,589 --> 00:41:39,359
for the center director over the last

1113
00:41:44,950 --> 00:41:41,599
year and a half or so but

1114
00:41:46,870 --> 00:41:44,960
it's this little microcosm of people who

1115
00:41:48,790 --> 00:41:46,880
are at one point

1116
00:41:50,950 --> 00:41:48,800
so technically competent we can do all

1117
00:41:53,270 --> 00:41:50,960
of the things that

1118
00:41:56,630 --> 00:41:53,280
my colleagues have said here but also

1119
00:41:59,670 --> 00:41:56,640
dreamers to think up of what's coming

1120
00:42:01,670 --> 00:41:59,680
next and and it all comes in one place

1121
00:42:05,109 --> 00:42:01,680
where you have these people just

1122
00:42:07,030 --> 00:42:05,119
passionate to be a part of where we're

1123
00:42:09,670 --> 00:42:07,040
going and i think that's one of the

1124
00:42:10,950 --> 00:42:09,680
highlights at jsc that kept coming up as

1125
00:42:14,950 --> 00:42:10,960
i interviewed people over the last

1126
00:42:20,550 --> 00:42:18,470
yes so on orion um so we're you know

1127
00:42:23,829 --> 00:42:20,560
we're able to leverage those decades of

1128
00:42:26,230 --> 00:42:23,839
experience uh here at jsc to make uh

1129
00:42:27,829 --> 00:42:26,240
significant contributions uh you know we

1130
00:42:30,710 --> 00:42:27,839
lead

1131
00:42:32,630 --> 00:42:30,720
the program office here out of jsc

1132
00:42:35,910 --> 00:42:32,640
substantial part of the engineering is

1133
00:42:39,589 --> 00:42:35,920
done here at jsc we do safety and

1134
00:42:42,870 --> 00:42:39,599
mission insurance we have fod that leads

1135
00:42:44,630 --> 00:42:42,880
and executes the flight operations

1136
00:42:47,589 --> 00:42:44,640
health and medical of course we've got

1137
00:42:49,589 --> 00:42:47,599
the flight crew office here as well

1138
00:42:51,109 --> 00:42:49,599
so we've really got all the

1139
00:42:53,270 --> 00:42:51,119
uh we really got all the skills

1140
00:42:54,470 --> 00:42:53,280
necessary to run a complex program like

1141
00:42:56,150 --> 00:42:54,480
orion

1142
00:42:58,630 --> 00:42:56,160
and it's because of the rich history

1143
00:43:00,950 --> 00:42:58,640
that jsc has that we've got we've got

1144
00:43:03,349 --> 00:43:00,960
that talent

1145
00:43:06,630 --> 00:43:03,359
definitely and i i recall recently just

1146
00:43:08,550 --> 00:43:06,640
seeing some of the the imagery of orion

1147
00:43:10,630 --> 00:43:08,560
stacked at the kennedy space center

1148
00:43:11,990 --> 00:43:10,640
vehicle assembly building so chuck do

1149
00:43:13,589 --> 00:43:12,000
you want to tell us a little bit about

1150
00:43:15,270 --> 00:43:13,599
what we can look forward to i know you

1151
00:43:17,190 --> 00:43:15,280
mentioned artemis one but i know there's

1152
00:43:19,750 --> 00:43:17,200
a bigger story to tell there

1153
00:43:22,069 --> 00:43:19,760
sure we're coming down the home stretch

1154
00:43:24,069 --> 00:43:22,079
uh getting ready to fly artemis one of

1155
00:43:27,270 --> 00:43:24,079
course artemis one is a

1156
00:43:29,750 --> 00:43:27,280
uncrewed uh mission uh to the moon uh

1157
00:43:32,390 --> 00:43:29,760
it's the first flight on the new

1158
00:43:35,270 --> 00:43:32,400
uh sls heavy lift vehicle

1159
00:43:37,510 --> 00:43:35,280
uh orion spacecraft is fully fueled and

1160
00:43:38,390 --> 00:43:37,520
serviced with all its fluids and gases

1161
00:43:40,390 --> 00:43:38,400
and it's

1162
00:43:43,750 --> 00:43:40,400
it's pretty much ready to go we were

1163
00:43:45,430 --> 00:43:43,760
mated uh to the sls launch vehicle a

1164
00:43:48,390 --> 00:43:45,440
couple of um

1165
00:43:50,309 --> 00:43:48,400
weeks or so ago we've done initial

1166
00:43:52,390 --> 00:43:50,319
spacecraft power on and health checks

1167
00:43:53,589 --> 00:43:52,400
after that mating and everything

1168
00:43:56,309 --> 00:43:53,599
looks good

1169
00:43:58,230 --> 00:43:56,319
we'll be participating in more uh power

1170
00:44:01,190 --> 00:43:58,240
testing in the coming

1171
00:44:03,270 --> 00:44:01,200
uh couple of months and um

1172
00:44:04,550 --> 00:44:03,280
looking forward to her launch um

1173
00:44:07,030 --> 00:44:04,560
probably

1174
00:44:08,630 --> 00:44:07,040
uh second week of february i think it's

1175
00:44:11,109 --> 00:44:08,640
our launch

1176
00:44:12,309 --> 00:44:11,119
window opens it'll be a long mission uh

1177
00:44:16,230 --> 00:44:12,319
at least

1178
00:44:17,990 --> 00:44:16,240
uh 26 days uh possibly 42 days depending

1179
00:44:19,190 --> 00:44:18,000
on the exact

1180
00:44:21,430 --> 00:44:19,200
day that we

1181
00:44:22,790 --> 00:44:21,440
get to launch we'll be flying a very

1182
00:44:24,630 --> 00:44:22,800
unique orbit

1183
00:44:28,870 --> 00:44:24,640
as compared to um

1184
00:44:31,270 --> 00:44:28,880
guatepala flew apollo flew a very low

1185
00:44:32,950 --> 00:44:31,280
relatively low altitude orbit

1186
00:44:35,750 --> 00:44:32,960
close to the lunar surface and went

1187
00:44:36,950 --> 00:44:35,760
around an orbit in about an hour so for

1188
00:44:38,950 --> 00:44:36,960
us to

1189
00:44:40,150 --> 00:44:38,960
uh to complete an orbit it's more like a

1190
00:44:42,150 --> 00:44:40,160
two-week

1191
00:44:45,750 --> 00:44:42,160
orbit so it's a much higher orbit it's

1192
00:44:48,069 --> 00:44:45,760
called a distant retrograde orbit or dro

1193
00:44:51,030 --> 00:44:48,079
i'm sure you guys will um

1194
00:44:53,990 --> 00:44:51,040
hear about that so it's um

1195
00:44:55,910 --> 00:44:54,000
anyway it's gonna be a very uh unique

1196
00:44:57,829 --> 00:44:55,920
mission it's gonna be very exciting

1197
00:44:59,829 --> 00:44:57,839
flying the first production version of

1198
00:45:01,750 --> 00:44:59,839
the spacecraft it'll be our fourth

1199
00:45:03,510 --> 00:45:01,760
flight but the first full pretty much

1200
00:45:04,390 --> 00:45:03,520
full up spacecraft

1201
00:45:06,870 --> 00:45:04,400
and

1202
00:45:09,990 --> 00:45:06,880
on a real uh our real ride our real

1203
00:45:12,069 --> 00:45:10,000
heavy lift sls vehicle

1204
00:45:14,069 --> 00:45:12,079
i get butterflies as you're speaking so

1205
00:45:15,750 --> 00:45:14,079
and then it looks like again everybody

1206
00:45:19,270 --> 00:45:15,760
here is getting those same butterflies

1207
00:45:21,589 --> 00:45:19,280
so you know i i look back 50 years and

1208
00:45:23,990 --> 00:45:21,599
you mentioned uh flight controls ready

1209
00:45:25,589 --> 00:45:24,000
vehicles fueled we're basically ready to

1210
00:45:27,270 --> 00:45:25,599
launch you know and

1211
00:45:29,829 --> 00:45:27,280
and i think about

1212
00:45:31,829 --> 00:45:29,839
the apollo mission control and i just

1213
00:45:33,430 --> 00:45:31,839
wanted to take a minute john you were

1214
00:45:36,550 --> 00:45:33,440
part of the team

1215
00:45:38,790 --> 00:45:36,560
uh in 2019 that was responsible for the

1216
00:45:40,470 --> 00:45:38,800
restoration of apollo mission control

1217
00:45:42,630 --> 00:45:40,480
that that project was a large

1218
00:45:44,390 --> 00:45:42,640
undertaking and if any of you haven't

1219
00:45:46,550 --> 00:45:44,400
had a chance to see it i highly

1220
00:45:49,349 --> 00:45:46,560
recommend you take a look

1221
00:45:52,230 --> 00:45:49,359
every last detail has been thought about

1222
00:45:54,230 --> 00:45:52,240
but can you talk a little bit about that

1223
00:45:58,390 --> 00:45:54,240
restoration project and

1224
00:46:00,390 --> 00:45:58,400
the impact the apollo program had at jsc

1225
00:46:02,230 --> 00:46:00,400
well sure uh thanks for that question

1226
00:46:04,630 --> 00:46:02,240
it's it's uh it's a big one uh obviously

1227
00:46:06,790 --> 00:46:04,640
apollo was kind of the reason why jsc

1228
00:46:08,230 --> 00:46:06,800
was built it was to get us to the moon

1229
00:46:10,150 --> 00:46:08,240
that was the goal that was set by

1230
00:46:11,589 --> 00:46:10,160
president kennedy and of course the you

1231
00:46:13,349 --> 00:46:11,599
know the mission control function was

1232
00:46:15,589 --> 00:46:13,359
one of the ones established for for the

1233
00:46:17,109 --> 00:46:15,599
manned spacecraft center at the time

1234
00:46:18,790 --> 00:46:17,119
and so that was controlled out of the

1235
00:46:19,750 --> 00:46:18,800
mission operations control room or the

1236
00:46:21,829 --> 00:46:19,760
moker

1237
00:46:23,430 --> 00:46:21,839
for apollo 11 over in

1238
00:46:25,270 --> 00:46:23,440
mission control center

1239
00:46:26,870 --> 00:46:25,280
and that that room was also used in the

1240
00:46:29,670 --> 00:46:26,880
early days of the shuttle until about

1241
00:46:31,589 --> 00:46:29,680
1992 before he was retired

1242
00:46:33,510 --> 00:46:31,599
and so they made modifications from the

1243
00:46:35,589 --> 00:46:33,520
apollo configuration as we flew through

1244
00:46:37,510 --> 00:46:35,599
the shuttle they were upgrades made

1245
00:46:39,430 --> 00:46:37,520
and after he was retired it kind of fell

1246
00:46:41,589 --> 00:46:39,440
into some disrepair and of course with

1247
00:46:43,829 --> 00:46:41,599
the 50th anniversary of apollo 11 coming

1248
00:46:45,349 --> 00:46:43,839
up the idea was well we probably ought

1249
00:46:47,349 --> 00:46:45,359
to restore this so you know when

1250
00:46:48,950 --> 00:46:47,359
visitors come to see it it would look

1251
00:46:51,510 --> 00:46:48,960
more like what they it really would have

1252
00:46:53,109 --> 00:46:51,520
looked like during apollo 11.

1253
00:46:54,710 --> 00:46:53,119
and that's easier said than done because

1254
00:46:57,109 --> 00:46:54,720
number one it was declared a national

1255
00:46:58,550 --> 00:46:57,119
historic landmark in 1985 which means

1256
00:47:00,150 --> 00:46:58,560
you can't just go in there and move

1257
00:47:01,430 --> 00:47:00,160
things around and take things out it has

1258
00:47:03,589 --> 00:47:01,440
to be done per

1259
00:47:05,030 --> 00:47:03,599
a certain set of rules and so our office

1260
00:47:07,270 --> 00:47:05,040
and it was primarily

1261
00:47:09,990 --> 00:47:07,280
our chief historian dr uh jennifer ross

1262
00:47:11,910 --> 00:47:10,000
nazal who who helped with that process

1263
00:47:13,670 --> 00:47:11,920
to give the historical perspective on

1264
00:47:16,230 --> 00:47:13,680
the control center

1265
00:47:18,069 --> 00:47:16,240
helped develop kind of the historical

1266
00:47:19,270 --> 00:47:18,079
dialogue about this the story that can

1267
00:47:21,030 --> 00:47:19,280
be told

1268
00:47:22,790 --> 00:47:21,040
to people who come visit the center so

1269
00:47:25,270 --> 00:47:22,800
she worked closely with our historic

1270
00:47:26,790 --> 00:47:25,280
preservation officer sandra tetley to

1271
00:47:28,470 --> 00:47:26,800
make all that happen a lot of other

1272
00:47:30,790 --> 00:47:28,480
folks were involved too so it's not to

1273
00:47:32,630 --> 00:47:30,800
it was a huge team effort

1274
00:47:35,270 --> 00:47:32,640
and it took a you know a couple years to

1275
00:47:37,030 --> 00:47:35,280
get all the consoles restored and as you

1276
00:47:38,950 --> 00:47:37,040
said everything was literally restored

1277
00:47:41,349 --> 00:47:38,960
back to the original condition as it

1278
00:47:43,510 --> 00:47:41,359
would appear during apollo 11. i mean

1279
00:47:45,670 --> 00:47:43,520
down to the armchairs to the to the

1280
00:47:47,190 --> 00:47:45,680
ashtrays to just about everything in the

1281
00:47:48,870 --> 00:47:47,200
control center is

1282
00:47:50,790 --> 00:47:48,880
back to original equipment and so when

1283
00:47:52,950 --> 00:47:50,800
you go there you kind of feel the whole

1284
00:47:54,630 --> 00:47:52,960
experience of the moon landing there's

1285
00:47:57,109 --> 00:47:54,640
there's video playing there's audio

1286
00:47:58,630 --> 00:47:57,119
playing so you feel like it's july 20th

1287
00:48:00,950 --> 00:47:58,640
1969

1288
00:48:03,270 --> 00:48:00,960
and so it was our pleasure in our office

1289
00:48:05,510 --> 00:48:03,280
to participate in that in restoring that

1290
00:48:08,470 --> 00:48:05,520
truly unique historic place to its

1291
00:48:12,870 --> 00:48:09,910
and your response john gave me

1292
00:48:17,430 --> 00:48:14,950
um i can't wait for 50 years from now

1293
00:48:19,750 --> 00:48:17,440
when folks are looking back at artemis

1294
00:48:21,750 --> 00:48:19,760
and where we are on mars and where we're

1295
00:48:22,630 --> 00:48:21,760
exploring beyond mars as well so that

1296
00:48:24,630 --> 00:48:22,640
that's

1297
00:48:26,630 --> 00:48:24,640
just such an exciting project to be a

1298
00:48:29,270 --> 00:48:26,640
part of so i wanted to pivot for a

1299
00:48:31,190 --> 00:48:29,280
second over to gateway with rod

1300
00:48:33,829 --> 00:48:31,200
um can you tell me a little bit about

1301
00:48:35,910 --> 00:48:33,839
how gateway is different from other nasa

1302
00:48:37,349 --> 00:48:35,920
programs and what what excites you most

1303
00:48:39,750 --> 00:48:37,359
about this

1304
00:48:41,990 --> 00:48:39,760
that's interesting um it's extremely

1305
00:48:44,950 --> 00:48:42,000
different and i would tell you um in all

1306
00:48:46,829 --> 00:48:44,960
the years so all my early career we have

1307
00:48:50,230 --> 00:48:46,839
a very classical approach

1308
00:48:52,230 --> 00:48:50,240
at any engineering driven i guess agency

1309
00:48:54,230 --> 00:48:52,240
where you you define you have a goal and

1310
00:48:56,710 --> 00:48:54,240
a mission and you define your concept of

1311
00:48:58,870 --> 00:48:56,720
operations you derive your requirements

1312
00:49:01,750 --> 00:48:58,880
you flow those requirements into

1313
00:49:03,589 --> 00:49:01,760
logical engineering engineered elements

1314
00:49:04,950 --> 00:49:03,599
you you divide those elements up and you

1315
00:49:07,270 --> 00:49:04,960
get them built and then you plug it all

1316
00:49:09,270 --> 00:49:07,280
back together and you get a spacecraft

1317
00:49:11,190 --> 00:49:09,280
and so it's a very top-down driven

1318
00:49:13,190 --> 00:49:11,200
approach where the design and the

1319
00:49:16,150 --> 00:49:13,200
concept flows all the way through to the

1320
00:49:18,390 --> 00:49:16,160
the end item and you you end up with a

1321
00:49:20,390 --> 00:49:18,400
very unique and custom purpose-built

1322
00:49:22,710 --> 00:49:20,400
vehicle much like the shuttle was or the

1323
00:49:25,670 --> 00:49:22,720
apollo was mercury all the all the

1324
00:49:27,750 --> 00:49:25,680
vehicles gateway is opposite day

1325
00:49:30,309 --> 00:49:27,760
gateway is an attempt to take and

1326
00:49:34,150 --> 00:49:30,319
aggregate commercial systems into a

1327
00:49:35,109 --> 00:49:34,160
cohesive useful spacecraft so we started

1328
00:49:36,309 --> 00:49:35,119
with

1329
00:49:38,549 --> 00:49:36,319
the commercial

1330
00:49:40,710 --> 00:49:38,559
bus which is a actually it's a satellite

1331
00:49:44,549 --> 00:49:40,720
bus it's built by maxar they have 90 of

1332
00:49:46,950 --> 00:49:44,559
these buses operating in space today and

1333
00:49:49,190 --> 00:49:46,960
that it's the basis of their of their

1334
00:49:51,430 --> 00:49:49,200
satellite and it it provides like i said

1335
00:49:53,829 --> 00:49:51,440
before the ability to create you know

1336
00:49:55,750 --> 00:49:53,839
generates power it does attitude control

1337
00:49:58,710 --> 00:49:55,760
and it communicates to the earth

1338
00:50:00,390 --> 00:49:58,720
and controls the overall stack and so we

1339
00:50:03,750 --> 00:50:00,400
started with that commercial bus there

1340
00:50:05,829 --> 00:50:03,760
are 1300 series and tweaked it to become

1341
00:50:07,670 --> 00:50:05,839
the core element for our gateway our

1342
00:50:09,750 --> 00:50:07,680
foundational element

1343
00:50:11,829 --> 00:50:09,760
then we go to northrop grumman

1344
00:50:13,670 --> 00:50:11,839
and we take their orbital

1345
00:50:16,230 --> 00:50:13,680
resupply vehicle for space station and

1346
00:50:18,710 --> 00:50:16,240
we take that module and we modify it to

1347
00:50:20,630 --> 00:50:18,720
whatever extents necessary to let it

1348
00:50:22,950 --> 00:50:20,640
become a habitable element and

1349
00:50:24,630 --> 00:50:22,960
permanently attached to the gateway as

1350
00:50:26,710 --> 00:50:24,640
part of our space station the first

1351
00:50:28,069 --> 00:50:26,720
element and then we have ihab and they

1352
00:50:30,470 --> 00:50:28,079
come along and do the same thing so what

1353
00:50:32,470 --> 00:50:30,480
we are doing is instead of

1354
00:50:35,589 --> 00:50:32,480
writing requirements that go all the way

1355
00:50:37,750 --> 00:50:35,599
down to the to the thread size of a

1356
00:50:39,510 --> 00:50:37,760
particular pieces of hardware we are

1357
00:50:42,150 --> 00:50:39,520
writing the requirements as as

1358
00:50:45,750 --> 00:50:42,160
capabilities and working with commercial

1359
00:50:47,829 --> 00:50:45,760
vendors and using their heritage systems

1360
00:50:49,510 --> 00:50:47,839
as much as possible and then trying to

1361
00:50:52,470 --> 00:50:49,520
figure out how to plug those systems

1362
00:50:54,710 --> 00:50:52,480
together and so that is an extremely

1363
00:50:56,069 --> 00:50:54,720
exciting opportunity it's a challenge

1364
00:50:58,069 --> 00:50:56,079
it's a puzzle

1365
00:51:00,069 --> 00:50:58,079
you have to be flexible you have to work

1366
00:51:02,390 --> 00:51:00,079
with these different vendors

1367
00:51:03,829 --> 00:51:02,400
to understand their system architecture

1368
00:51:06,230 --> 00:51:03,839
and how you can make it work and you

1369
00:51:08,470 --> 00:51:06,240
have to adapt you so you've become very

1370
00:51:10,630 --> 00:51:08,480
adaptable at how you are going to meet

1371
00:51:12,069 --> 00:51:10,640
your mission goals and the objective of

1372
00:51:13,750 --> 00:51:12,079
your program

1373
00:51:15,750 --> 00:51:13,760
i often

1374
00:51:17,670 --> 00:51:15,760
use anecdotes like it's like buying an

1375
00:51:19,670 --> 00:51:17,680
engine for a forward and the body from

1376
00:51:21,510 --> 00:51:19,680
subaru and a computer from someone else

1377
00:51:23,190 --> 00:51:21,520
trying to make it all work together and

1378
00:51:24,470 --> 00:51:23,200
yet it's a really exciting challenge and

1379
00:51:26,870 --> 00:51:24,480
i think that's the way the agency's

1380
00:51:29,510 --> 00:51:26,880
moving and as we transition from top

1381
00:51:31,510 --> 00:51:29,520
down driven engineering to aggregation

1382
00:51:34,470 --> 00:51:31,520
of commercial systems that are being

1383
00:51:36,630 --> 00:51:34,480
promoted by in leo and and across the

1384
00:51:38,390 --> 00:51:36,640
logistics and transportation systems you

1385
00:51:40,470 --> 00:51:38,400
know that's how we're shifting our

1386
00:51:42,549 --> 00:51:40,480
overall um

1387
00:51:46,470 --> 00:51:42,559
expertise and our management

1388
00:51:50,710 --> 00:51:48,710
that's a really great way of putting it

1389
00:51:52,710 --> 00:51:50,720
i liked your little anecdote as well but

1390
00:51:55,910 --> 00:51:52,720
um we're getting close to the end of our

1391
00:51:57,190 --> 00:51:55,920
time for for our panel today and

1392
00:51:58,870 --> 00:51:57,200
i wanted to

1393
00:52:01,990 --> 00:51:58,880
give each of our panelists to take a

1394
00:52:05,750 --> 00:52:02,000
moment and summarize their thoughts um

1395
00:52:07,829 --> 00:52:05,760
our topic today is how is 60 years of

1396
00:52:09,510 --> 00:52:07,839
jsc propelling us forward to the moon

1397
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and mars if you could summarize your

1398
00:52:15,589 --> 00:52:12,480
thought in one or two key sentences

1399
00:52:17,349 --> 00:52:15,599
why don't we start with you john

1400
00:52:19,109 --> 00:52:17,359
okay i guess i'm going to jump off of

1401
00:52:20,150 --> 00:52:19,119
something that ryan said about vision

1402
00:52:21,910 --> 00:52:20,160
because

1403
00:52:24,309 --> 00:52:21,920
in 1961

1404
00:52:26,230 --> 00:52:24,319
the area where jsc is now located was

1405
00:52:28,069 --> 00:52:26,240
coastal prairie basically

1406
00:52:30,150 --> 00:52:28,079
and somebody had the vision to turn that

1407
00:52:32,710 --> 00:52:30,160
into the leading human space flight

1408
00:52:34,870 --> 00:52:32,720
center and made that vision a reality

1409
00:52:36,870 --> 00:52:34,880
and you know eight years later we landed

1410
00:52:39,430 --> 00:52:36,880
on the moon so vision is key in making

1411
00:52:41,910 --> 00:52:39,440
sure you can implement your vision

1412
00:52:43,349 --> 00:52:41,920
and as exciting as the past 60 years

1413
00:52:45,750 --> 00:52:43,359
have been in everything that we have

1414
00:52:50,470 --> 00:52:45,760
accomplished here i cannot wait to see

1415
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:55,589
thanks so much what an inspiration chuck

1416
00:52:58,710 --> 00:52:57,670
well for me it's uh it's really just a

1417
00:53:01,990 --> 00:52:58,720
humbling

1418
00:53:05,910 --> 00:53:02,000
experience to be able to um

1419
00:53:09,190 --> 00:53:05,920
be part of it i mean jsc is a fabulous

1420
00:53:11,829 --> 00:53:09,200
institution has a fabulous

1421
00:53:12,950 --> 00:53:11,839
history monumental

1422
00:53:16,309 --> 00:53:12,960
missions

1423
00:53:18,950 --> 00:53:16,319
and uh the people that work here are

1424
00:53:21,430 --> 00:53:18,960
not only uh exceptionally talented but

1425
00:53:22,230 --> 00:53:21,440
of the highest integrity of anybody you

1426
00:53:24,390 --> 00:53:22,240
can

1427
00:53:26,470 --> 00:53:24,400
meet so um

1428
00:53:29,910 --> 00:53:26,480
it's been it's really a privilege to

1429
00:53:31,510 --> 00:53:29,920
work here the institution and the people

1430
00:53:33,670 --> 00:53:31,520
has made me a better engineer and made

1431
00:53:33,930 --> 00:53:33,680
me a better person being part of it so

1432
00:53:35,349 --> 00:53:33,940
um

1433
00:53:36,790 --> 00:53:35,359
[Music]

1434
00:53:38,630 --> 00:53:36,800
it's

1435
00:53:39,589 --> 00:53:38,640
really humbling to be part of it thank

1436
00:53:44,710 --> 00:53:39,599
you

1437
00:53:48,710 --> 00:53:45,990
i would um

1438
00:53:50,870 --> 00:53:48,720
say that over 50 years we put

1439
00:53:53,349 --> 00:53:50,880
humans on the moon in the last 20 years

1440
00:53:54,790 --> 00:53:53,359
we've had them in space i can remember

1441
00:53:56,790 --> 00:53:54,800
saying

1442
00:53:58,390 --> 00:53:56,800
to folks that when we were talking about

1443
00:53:59,990 --> 00:53:58,400
space station one day there will be a

1444
00:54:01,670 --> 00:54:00,000
generation that's never not seen folks

1445
00:54:02,630 --> 00:54:01,680
in space and that generation is here

1446
00:54:04,710 --> 00:54:02,640
today

1447
00:54:07,510 --> 00:54:04,720
and in five years we will start

1448
00:54:09,510 --> 00:54:07,520
sustainable exploration of the lunar

1449
00:54:11,829 --> 00:54:09,520
vicinity so i think that's an incredibly

1450
00:54:13,670 --> 00:54:11,839
exciting time jsc has been

1451
00:54:15,589 --> 00:54:13,680
in the in a leadership role in all of

1452
00:54:21,030 --> 00:54:15,599
those programs and it

1453
00:54:26,390 --> 00:54:23,750
well jsc is at the forefront of

1454
00:54:28,710 --> 00:54:26,400
commercialization right we

1455
00:54:31,990 --> 00:54:28,720
and when i talk commercialization

1456
00:54:33,910 --> 00:54:32,000
building economies not just in

1457
00:54:35,349 --> 00:54:33,920
the earth orbit we're building economies

1458
00:54:36,950 --> 00:54:35,359
on the moon too we didn't talk about

1459
00:54:40,870 --> 00:54:36,960
that the commercial lunar payload

1460
00:54:42,950 --> 00:54:40,880
services right project and so gsc is at

1461
00:54:46,230 --> 00:54:42,960
the forefront of that we are leading the

1462
00:54:48,870 --> 00:54:46,240
way for what it means to open up

1463
00:54:51,670 --> 00:54:48,880
access to space for everyone through

1464
00:54:53,670 --> 00:54:51,680
commercialization and i'm just excited

1465
00:54:55,990 --> 00:54:53,680
i'm honored and privileged to be a part

1466
00:54:58,549 --> 00:54:56,000
of it and it's just

1467
00:55:00,950 --> 00:54:58,559
i just it's incredible it's an

1468
00:55:04,710 --> 00:55:00,960
incredible incredible opportunity and

1469
00:55:08,950 --> 00:55:04,720
privilege so thank you for having me

1470
00:55:13,030 --> 00:55:08,960
thank you last but not least ryan

1471
00:55:15,589 --> 00:55:13,040
there is probably not much i can add um

1472
00:55:18,470 --> 00:55:15,599
i resonate with everything everybody

1473
00:55:19,829 --> 00:55:18,480
said it is such an exciting time to be

1474
00:55:22,630 --> 00:55:19,839
not only a part of the aerospace

1475
00:55:23,829 --> 00:55:22,640
community but but jsc

1476
00:55:26,950 --> 00:55:23,839
chuck you're right the people are

1477
00:55:29,750 --> 00:55:26,960
phenomenal um their passion

1478
00:55:31,270 --> 00:55:29,760
their minds how they show up every day

1479
00:55:32,630 --> 00:55:31,280
at work it's just

1480
00:55:36,630 --> 00:55:32,640
truly

1481
00:55:40,549 --> 00:55:38,390
i don't think i've worked anywhere else

1482
00:55:42,870 --> 00:55:40,559
where every single person

1483
00:55:45,430 --> 00:55:42,880
uh i've crossed paths with including all

1484
00:55:47,109 --> 00:55:45,440
of all of you today has been so excited

1485
00:55:49,270 --> 00:55:47,119
to work where they work so

1486
00:55:51,190 --> 00:55:49,280
i really really appreciate everyone's

1487
00:55:53,190 --> 00:55:51,200
time thank you thank you so much to our

1488
00:55:55,750 --> 00:55:53,200
panelists who help us look forward to

1489
00:55:57,589 --> 00:55:55,760
the moon and on to mars celebrating 60

1490
00:55:59,109 --> 00:55:57,599
years is definitely a milestone and

1491
00:56:02,069 --> 00:55:59,119
thanks so much for joining us today

1492
00:56:04,150 --> 00:56:02,079
here's to 60 more years